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Debrief is going to give us a wealth of information that is going to benefit us, not only in this facility but throughout the state. the eme has their hands in every institution as well as various neighborhoods out in the streets. by him coming forward, actually he's putting his life and safety in jeopardy. but he's well aware of that. this is a good, good debrief. >> it's sny for you? >> oh, yeah. i couldn't go on mainline. i mean, i could, but i wouldn't last long. i didn't suffer delusions of grandeur, some p-man. you know what i mean? you may be able to hold your own for long enough, but e...

I'm really hating life right now, and -- to me, life doesn't have any meaning at all. >> in exchange for the opportunity to get out of the shu, kenneth smith had to give up the gang, a decision he regrets and one that robert would never make. instead of looking for a way out, robert finds ways to thrive in his environment. >> this is the only place we get to come out, program, rec, work out. >> this right here, this is my shoe sole. i put it up here so i don't mess up my hands. different people deal with their time in different ways. me, myself, i'm just trying to

What i mean? they can't validate us. >> what do you want to do with the bulldogs? >> whatever it takes. this is my life now, there's no chance for me to get out. i'm going to have to die sometime. i might as well go out with a bang, you know? coming up, even in the shu, robert's always ready for battle. >> this is my shoe, i don't mess with my hands. i count, it's as close as we're going to get to pullups. >> and later a gang dropout struggles with life on the sensitive needs yard. we're headed over to c facility.

Take them to a motel or something, have them call their parents, have them wire money to an account. and that's about it. after that, you let them go if they put the money in the bank. >> what if they don't? >> that's a different story. >> how does that story end? >> bad. >> how bad? >> i cut the guy's neck, that kind of bad. i had no reason to do that. >> why? >> honestly, i don't know. i guess i'm just a bad guy. coming up, robert puts his tough persona aside for a family visit. >> you know when i go to prison, i don't talk about this place here, you know what i mean? >> and later, one of ...

The business for them. >> sure. >> and they never came through although they said they would. at that point, i felt like, what's the point of this? >> since you've entered the debriefing process, up until now you're getting ready to get endorsed to an sny, how has it been for your phase one, phase two? what have you been feeling? >> i feel like the world's been lifted off my shoulders. i had so much responsibility. i was always concerned about everybody else and what i had to do following these rules and regulations and all that of the circle. >> you've had the opportunity to be out there on t...