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Anyway. kelly o'donnell, thanks very much. the whole episode raised a ton of legal question. julian epstein is a former democratic chief counsel, went through impeachment wars of the late '90s. robert lit, former general counsel for the director of national intelligence. basically, there's nobody like bob litz. i was told book him again. julian, bob, yquestion for you both. bob, start with you. how does new reporting change the brewing legal battle here where it seems as if there's a line here, the white house is trying to argue that sure, there may have been political conversations in there, ...

Is unfair. that is at the core and it's documented and that's what happened. now, lewandowski said he didn't think the message was illegal and he did not deliver it, but we all knew that from the report. the reason he didn't deliver it and it was supposedly completely innocent and i want to play a part of the exchange for you, robert? i never delivered the message. >> you chickened out. >> i went on vacation. >> how long was your vacation, mr. lewandowski. >> it was lengthy. at least two weeks. >> but you were summoned again to the white house on july 19th, 30 days after the original june 19th...

Discussions in hush terms about whether or not he hurt himself legally, whether he said anything today under oath that contradicts what he said before under oath. unfortunately, we don't have those transcripts the last time he office capitol hill so it's hard to really know, but what he really cares about is the president of the united states. he would walk through fire for him and today he actually did that. i don't -- first of all, even if there is another witness that would be compelled to testify i can't imagine it being the same. don mcgahn, which is a big if -- >> it's not his personalit...

That this is his m.o. he doesn't care. it is an audience of one. we maybe overuse that term in the trump years, but corey lewandowski didn't need to be given the script because he could write the script and it flows through his veins how to talk in the trump language and how to speak trumpese and he went in there fully intending to do just that and not just pleasing the boss, but also about pleasing the boss' base in the state of new hampshire where he is seriously considering a run for the senate. >> yeah. >> and has to win a primary first. that say huge part of it, but even if he weren't con...

Whistle-blower case could reach into the oval office about something vital to national security. so there is a deadline tonight and the dni is the deadline and they have to turn over a whistle-blower complaint and this to the house intelligence committee and chairman schiff told cnn about who the whistle-blower could be and i want to play it because it's pretty important. >> someone above the dni. there aren't that many above that category and they also suggested that there may be privilege issues here which means it would have to involve communications with the president or people around him....