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Of law, the requirement to follow the rules, follow the regulations as they were laid out an only think there's one reason for donald trump to do that. why would donald trump care who is in charge of this investigation? if he wasn't worried about where it would go. he wanted jeff sessions in that job still overseeing that investigation i believe because he wanted to steer in it a way that was helpful to him just as he wanted jeff sessions there at the justice department to help him to sign off on the firing of jim comey, an act that's investigated as obstruction of justice. >> professor sugarm...

Just be more dependent on pleasing the president. whatever he could do, delivering that speech about daca, only to have trump a few days later say, hey, just kidding. we are going to do something that will keep these young strivers in our country. it's all part of his manipulation. >> matt miller, with your experience in government, your reading of hillary clinton's interpretation of the scene? >> i think secretary clinton is right. especially if you look at the time line here. so this meeting happened on may 17th, the day that bob mueller was appointed. the president demanded jeff sessions re...

Impede, influence or obstruction justice an the scene we have here helps establish, one extra piece of establishing corrupt and intent. why was trump so angry about mueller's appointment and sessions' role? he expected sessions to help him obstruct an investigation firing comey and you see his fear and anger about the appointment. why was he so fearful and angry? paints a picture. by itself it doesn't show corrupt and intent but it is a possibility of being able to flip sessions because he now has some questions about his criminal liability. he may be another witness in this case. >> in light ...

Of the effort to corruptly impede, influence or obstruction justice an the scene we have here helps establish, one extra piece of establishing corrupt and intent. why was trump so angry about mueller's appointment and sessions' role? he expected sessions to help him obstruct an investigation firing comey and you see his fear and anger about the appointment. why was he so fearful and angry? paints a picture. by itself it doesn't show corrupt and intent but it is a possibility of being able to flip sessions because he now has some questions about his criminal liability. he may be another witness...

Regulations as they were laid out an only think there's one reason for donald trump to do that. why would donald trump care who is in charge of this investigation? if he wasn't worried about where it would go. he wanted jeff sessions in that job still overseeing that investigation i believe because he wanted to steer in it a way that was helpful to him just as he wanted jeff sessions there at the justice department to help him to sign off on the firing of jim comey, an act that's investigated as obstruction of justice. >> professor sugarman, what is your reading of the evidentiary value to the...