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Former campaign strategist, dave cotchel. and in los angeles, we're joined a senior adviser to the aforementioned al gore's presidential campaign, robert shrum. gentleman, what an incredible trio you are. you guys can't see us here. you're lined up ideologically in an odd way, but i'll ask gary bower, then bob shrum, and then gary gotchel, where's the race at now? is this race basically over? >> it ain't ever over until it's over. whether it's sports or politics, you get up every morning and fight as if you can win. and it's important for the ticket, for trump/pence, to approach the rest of th...

Their -- with their republican friends, is to try to smear the republican candidate. and by the way, i can't ever imagine harry reid or nancy pelosi bailing out on a democrat presidential candidate. in fact, they didn't say a word when hillary clinton spent the last three years obstructing justice and destroying evidence that was central to an investigation of her mishandling of classified information. >> bob, there's a lot to work with there. i'm going to -- i'm going to let you pick and choose what you would like to respond to there. gary, if you can just let bob speak, please. >> one, these...

Himself. no one else smeared him. >> let's finish with some metrics here. i wanted to start with dave, then bob, then gary. tell me, who's going to win and what percentage of the overall popular vote they're going to get. >> dave? >> hillary clinton's going to win, overall percentage of the popular vote is going to be around 47, 48. and electorally, it will be, you know, over 100 electoral votes. although, i will say that there's a possibility that donald trump could win a state or two that governor romney did not win. there will be that many states or many that he will lose that governor romn...

In all of this, is that a good bit of the industrial base of this country has been devastated, and that people that have been voting democrat for years feel that their party has abandoned them. those are new people for the republican party. if it's got enough of a brain to accept them. and i think they need to keep making the case for those people, and for clinton corruption, and what that would mean for four more years in washington, d.c.. >> all right, gary bauer, pro-trump republican says the race is not yet over. bob shrum, i know what you're going to say, but i'm going to ask you, anyway....

Will he get to win? >> yeah, you know, i'm not even going to go down that road. i'm not a political prosticater, but i do believe, god forbid if hillary clinton wins, it will be a failed presidency, because it will be the same policies of the last eight years that have devastated our economy and weakened us abroad. >> um, gary bauer, bob shrum, dave kochel. >> heretofore known forever more as the three amigos. >> with that, you guys were great. we'll have you back here on the show. it would be great to have you in the same room, because there would be fisticuffs. and we love fisticuffs. up n...