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Found and that any one will ever be convicted of the the murders of these four young girls? let's ask our panel. guys, thanks for being with us this evening. now, steve, they say that this case where scott and springsteen were convicted that there is no evidence connecting them to the scene of the crime other than a confession. do you think there is additional evidence here? >> your honor the fact of the matter is that the one suspect, murderer by the way, not a crook, is is specific in the number of shots and how the shots were fired. how would this person know this part of the crime if they ...

Word euphoria. when the confessions were taken from scott and springsteen the prosecution alleged there were facts no one other than the murderers would know. did you hold back facts in the beginning? >> yes, we did. and that is -- it is difficult in a case of this magnitude to hold back too much and facts known only to the investigator and to the crooks as it were would have one important within the first couple of maybe three weeks but as time goes on more and more of those facts either inch or unintentionally leak out. there were a couple that we just flat didn't put in any reports that we ...

Go any further with them. we opted early in the case to set a standard of proof beyond a reasonable doubt before we would sign on the line for the probable cause affidavit. we opted for the higher standard for this particular case. >> judge jeanine: obviously detective you need the high level of evidence to prove any one guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. how did you feel when you heard that the guys you interviewed and cut loose were eventually indicted and convicted of the murders of these girls, scott and springsteen anyway? >> when i got the call in the middle of the night from the cold cas...

Pierce, wellborn, scott and springsteen but then you cut them loose. why? >> we got to the point we couldn't go any further with them. we brought them in because maurice got caught with a .22 caliber pistol within three or four blocks of the crea crime . we weren't able to do anything on the ballistics to match it up. in the briefing maurice implicated the other three. so we were under an obligation to investigate his statement. we wired up maurice and he met with a wire to go talk to a couple of the others. it was pretty obvious for us and it was is pretty obvious listening to the wire that f...

Ever be convicted of the the murders of these four young girls? let's ask our panel. guys, thanks for being with us this evening. now, steve, they say that this case where scott and springsteen were convicted that there is no evidence connecting them to the scene of the crime other than a confession. do you think there is additional evidence here? >> your honor the fact of the matter is that the one suspect, murderer by the way, not a crook, is is specific in the number of shots and how the shots were fired. how would this person know this part of the crime if they weren't at the scene? >> jud...