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But after january 1st, 2014, president obama will become a lame duck president and people will already start thinking and acting like 2016 is right around the corner. >> does that mean, robert, that you think that republicans are going to play obstructionists? do you think they will? >> i don't think politically they can afford to do this this time around because president obama won with such big numbers. i think they will work with him on immigration reform and comprehensive tax reform and comprehensive climate change reform. other than that, after 2014, i can't imagine them working with him,...

Get any worse. >> how long does the president have? robert mentioned lame duck. how long until that phrase becomes present? >> i don't know. i think the pressure is on all sides to get something done now because of the fiscal cliff. so i think he's got the upper hand to get people to the table if he gets the message right about getting this, the tax code in balance so we can have the prosperity that we had back in the '90s when it was more in balance. but i don't know, i think people will want to work to get these things done. i don't know if he'll have too much of a lame duck problem. >> can ...

The number has tripled in eight years with no end in sight. >> there are catalogs and circulation that has fallen due to increase in postage. it's time now for the big three and today's topics, second term, part one. second term, part two. let's bring in my big three panel. doug haddaway, erin mcpike, and robert traynum. i've had my coffee and i'm ready to go. erin, what do you think in terms of the president's top three goals in the second term? >> i don't know about three but i think aside from the very obvious, which is to strike some sort of big deal on the fiscal cliff and get some sort o...

What's your must-read? >> there's a great profile today in the "washington post" of patty murray, the fourth-ranking democrat in the senate. she just led the democrats to a bigger majority in the senate. she is the incoming chair of the senate budget committee. i don't mean to gush, but for people who are interested in washington, what's going to be happening with the fiscal cliff and next year, you want to read this story about patty murray. a lot of people are tired about hearing about mitch mcconnell and harry reid and some of these other leaders this is one you want to read this profile. >...

Santorum, robert traynum and shira it uplet. i'm going to begin with you, robert, david axelrod was on "meet the press," and he slammed mitt romney on the economy. let's listen to what he said. >> this is the same case he made in the state of massachusetts, he said i'm going to get the economy moving again. i'm a businessman, i know how to create jobs. they went from 37th in nation in job creation. to 47th in the nation in job creation. so we've tested the romney acumen when it comes to create jobs and he's found wanting. >> that massachusetts line of attack, is it going to work? >> he's looki...