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Wray was so stupid that he had abided by a demand from the nixon white house to destroy incriminating watergate documents, which if you want to get confirmed, was not too intelligent, and the nomination was pull, and after that nixon was forced to take a permanent fbi director who was a professional. so you have to assume, you have to pray that the system corrects itself. >> even when you can get people in place that will do the kind of stuff that a corrupt president wants in circumstance like this, the system tends to catch them? >> there are an awful lot of people. who will blow the whistle....

When presidents try to pervert the course of justice, when they try to obstruct, whether it's that example or others, does the justice department usually squeal? or does the justice department sometimes go along with it? >> well, there are inspectors general and there are people in the justice department who will object to it, but usually you got career people who know that this is not the way that it's supposed to happen, and they get their back up. for instance, nixon appointed when j. edgar hoover dried as disrupt director a guy named robert wray who is an old political hack, who had been a...

The department of justice playing out for all to see on capitol hill. deputy attorney general rod rosenstein and fbi director robert wray fending off attacks in a fiery five-hour hearing. listen to trey gowdy who took nearly 2 1/2 years to complete the benghazi investigation ripping rosenstein for the length of the investigation. >> if you have evidence of wrongdoing by any member of the trump campaign, present it to the damn grand jury. if you have evidence that this president acted inappropriately, present it to the american people. whatever you got. finish it the hell up. >> what the hell? ...

They were so angry. >> ugly. >> for an fbi director like a lifelong republican for robert wray -- chris wray, i mean, he committed his life like this. donald trump asking this fbi director. such a great job, doing a great job, lifelong republican. rod rose enstein, the lifelong republican. >> answering questions. >> they are yelling and shouting at him. for them to be so unhinged and screaming and yelling at the top law enforcement officers, americans are saying why are they so angry? why are they screaming and yelling? why are they so unhinged in. >> they are worried. it's that simple. i thou...

And james comey said these were all very hard decisions. and i grant him that. but you're right. in the vacuum that was created by the absence of leadership, james comey stepped in, you can criticize that jump. he probably felt that he did the best he could under the circumstances, but the -- basically all of the sort of collateral consequences that flow from the lack of leadership from the top on down, that's the mess that was created that occasions this 500-page report. >> neil: robert, i remember the july 2016 lesser. it wasn't a presser, it was a statement. what have you. one of the things...