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141 pages of text with more than 40 significant changes to state law. so legislators and outraged citizens were scrambling over the weekend to try to figure out what was in the bill. there was some 1234i6significan things. for example, they're taking away evers' right to withdraw from the affordable care act. they have also limited early voting to two weeks. >> so how did they justify these actions? >> well, they claim, which is quite astonishing, that the legislature is the most executive branch of the government. however the state is one of the most heavily gerrymandered in the country. it's...

The pike. no, i haven't had a chance to talk -- i mean it was last minute. it was one of these here's a rumor and then here's the bills that have been worked on for several months. but, you know, chuck, if scott walker had won this election, we wouldn't be sitting here talking to you today. >> is there any part -- you know, one of the things that the speaker said, he goes, well, in hindsight maybe we gave the governor too much power. take the partisan hat off a minute. all right. i know that perhaps many people read that comment tongue in cheek. but do you believe he's right? >> well, there ar...

That. but what's with y and z here? did you go to him and say, look, i really think this part is just crazy. please veto that. if you want to keep this, i get it. >> no. i talked about a few areas that are really important that actually republican business leaders have talked about, that would take away power and implicate -- and make economic development much more difficult in the state of wisconsin, but the entire thing is a mess. it's a hot mess. and i believe that he should veto the entire package. in fact at least three or four of the pieces that are in there now, he has vetoed previously...

If we stick to david of wisconsin and michigan, what happened to the peaceful transfer of power and the belief in the constitution and the ultimate right to vote and ha every vote counts in this country? don't republicans, isn't that their mantra? >> in theory and if you're going to have a peaceful transfer of power, you've got to have some power to transfer. and what you have here is a situation where democrats in wisconsin -- excuse me, republicans lost elections state bide in wisconsin and michigan. but instead of transferring power, they're taking power away from those incoming administrat...

Situation where democrats in wisconsin -- excuse me, republicans lost elections state bide in wisconsin and michigan. but instead of transferring power, they're taking power away from those incoming administrations. it effectively undermines democracy. i can just want to read one quote, don, from the republican head of the state assembly in wisconsin. he said, his guy's name is robin voss. we're going to have a liberal governor who is going to enact liberal policies. >> we played that sound bite last night. >> the response to that is yes, that's who won the election. if you don't like that, th...