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Whether there was an explicit quid pro quo whether trump was enough in the loop to be legally liable, i don't know i defer to the lawyers about what exactly the criminal liability would be, but on the fundamental political question, i don't mean political in a partisan sense, but in the broader sense of politics. i think we know that donald trump was happy to have russian help and was in the campaign and knew that people beneath him very likely knew that people beneath him were in touch directly or indirectly with agents of russia to help release -- whether they. to at least release these ille...

Given how much time you spent with him, did you see this day coming and who is the roger stone we saw out there on the courthouse steps and will he fold >> well, i think, you know, roger has such a reputation as a scoundrel, which he embraces, you would think he would drop a dime on the president in a second if he were to be in a position to save his own skin, but i think that roger has a genuine affection for trump. i've seen it many times. i think almost bordering on true love for trump i asked him one time whether he considered trump to be one of his closest friends, and he essentially said...

And that is that the investigators, mueller investigators, are going use this in their report, the final report, because perhaps they don't intend to bring charges and instead what they are going to do is lay out everything they found out about roger stop, his contacts with wikileaks and julian assange and anybody else that they may have been using at go-between and the contacts with the trump campaign, including perhaps the now president himself. again, roger stone is one of the central characters in this drama, wolf. he is, i think, central to understanding whether or not there was this cons...

Closing in a little bit here, because the congress is now no longer in republican hands. >> i wonder if part of what you're saying makes them look bad, and provides a decent defense for some of these people. i was down in florida, it's on my mind, i call it the broward county defense, which is can't be much of a conspiracy if they can't put together like lunch. if they have trouble conspiring to serve lunch, there's not like a statewide voter fraud conspeary. and likewise, george papadopoulos, and jerome coursy, and roger stop, who seems a little more competent, none of them look like they cou...

role in our political process, is consistent with russian directed efforts. >> reporter: the clinton campaign pointed to this tweet by trump confidant roger stop in august and what cnn believes he meant to say, trust me, it will soon be podeta aye's time in the barrel. >> i would say that russian interference in this election and their apparent attempt on behalf of mr. trump is, i think, of -- should be of utmost concern to all americans, whether you're an independent, republican, or democrat. >> reporter: roger stone said he had "no foremoj of the documents." donald trump saying that hilla...