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Ties, circumstantial ties to russia, there is a lot to look at and the pressure under the senate committee. the momentum is going to pickup on this again. we are now 100 days in. this story is i think as hot as it was at its hottest moment 100 days ago. >> again, i go back to michael flynn. he makes all of the other allegations seem plausible. that's the problem the trump white house has. no matter how much they want to call him rogue, and he may have been a rogue actor, but the problem is he was national security advisor. >> exactly right. i think the problem now is that the white house sayin...

Kill to help make that happen. and the international community has to recognize russia for the rogue actor that they are. they are encouraging this type. despotic regimes wherever they can, and that's really the threat of russia. i mean, when putin started, you know, messing around in ukraine and other places, you know, that's but a small piece of what he is trying to do. he is trying to undermine liberal democracy every place he can and basically he's trying to make the world safe for autocratic dictatorships and we in the united states, as the leaders of freedom, should stand up against that...

Cause some pain. >> jenna: let's talk more about the sanctions specifically, over the last couple of years we have talked about sanctions, some of which you like, some you don't. what is it about the sanctions that you think are particularly effective that they are actually getting the response from iran? >> book, we had a huge amount of pressure on iran before the deal was signed. it was one of the things that brought them to the table in the first place was that they were really feeling it. primarily because they were cut off from the financial system. the former financial system. they canno...

Preserve four constitutional republican. if russia has, you know -- i am not 100% convinced that they did this solely, but if they did do that, yeah, i think there has to be some payback on that. but i disagree with president obama saying it's going to be covertly and overtly. i don't think he should announce these things. i think it should be done diplomatically. i think he should have included president-elect donald trump. >> let me ask you this, then. you are not convinced, donald trump clearly isn't convinced on the intelligence. do you believe the trump administration will attempt to reve...

Officials believe to be the case. they say that they have very good intelligence on iran. they were able, at least the israelis, we suspect, if not with u.s. help were able to compromise the centrifuges over the last couple of years through the computer virus that was put either into equipment in iran or on its way into iran. you've seen the assassinations of iranian nuclear scientists. they've slowed the process down. they believe that iran has not made the political decision to proceed and now crippled by sanctions, this is the moment when iran is getting back to the negotiating table after ...