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Gas executives play the useful idiot to all this corruption and all this malevolence from russia. but do you land on the conclusion -- because i feel like you have questions even at the end of this. >> where i sort of land is sort of as i said that the american public is in -- we are in the cat bird seat here. we could change the world. i think that this is the most malign and destructive industry on earth because of what they're doing on climate but also because of the way they prop up dictatorships and bad actors around the world including the ones that are most hostile and most dangerous to...

Charge of u.s. foreign policy right after he did a half trillion dollars deal with russia that was only stopped because of u.n. foreign policy toward russia. then he put that guy in charge of foreign policy. the fact that the gas and oil industry needs more of our attention and as they get reigned in because of the impact they are having on the climate, we should recognize that reigning them in is going to change the world too. it's not just going to change the environment. it's going to change the geopolitical world. >> i think you will change the conversation around those industries' impact ...