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Heavy radical cut in taxes and you have got to have some idea in your head of how much it's going to cost. how you can argue it will simulate the economy. there will be some increase in revenue as a increase in that. you got to have a number. >> he said he would get back to me and i trust him that he will. >> on the day you rerelease a plan that's a major issue. cut spending of 18% of g.d.p. under obama it's 24%. that is the biggest cut in galactic history. >> bill: it is, absolutely. >> got to explain how you make up for it. >> or he is going to cut it to the bone and, you know, that's what h...

>> maybe. >> it's going to be interesting to see one of them will get the nomination likely romney. does he he support barack obama for nomination? >> no. how is he going to bridge that gap? >> like me colmes. >> people don't know we are this close. people don't get that. >> people would never believe it. >> no. i like colmes. in person, when he is not talking,. [ laughter ] >> bill: colmes is okay. >> as long as i'm quiet. >> bill: only when his mouth opens. >> as long as i keep my big trap shut. >> bill: just tape it, fine. >> then we get along good. okay. >> bill: barack and hard place. whe...

Today with a far more conservative republic party. yes. i think he was right to do it on that level and i think it's a perfectly proper and reasonable attack. romney will have to defend himself on that. >> bill: now, last question. the immigration, i think, hurt him. did he make up for it tonight? >> i think so. in a sense -- well, you can't make up for the gaffe of saying that people who are harder live than he is and as you said are hurting or see themselves as hurting as a result of illegal illegal immigration and the way they are getting the benefits that they have never earned, i think he...

Everybody knows it all right? and i admire that he actually said it and explained why. most politicians would have just dodged that question but he didn't. what did you pick up? >> well, he avoided saying i don't like the guy. he just said i don't like people who change position romney's actions rather than romney's character so. >> he did say auto or 60 years old what kind of a person changes opinion on vital subjects? that's a little personal. >> well, of course. if you are going to say the guy changes his positions but i think he is trying to keep it as close to substantive attack meaning i...

>> -- she doesn't want to get -- >> that's true. >> bill: as a fanatical liberal man. >> fanatical. unbelievable. far left loons. >> solve everybody's problem. i'm sure you want these people who to be able to give. >> i think what the president did yesterday and the plan he presented which doesn't cost the taxpayer any additional dollars is a very good forcing them to provide loans to people, unfair to other people who are paying. >> let's not forget, the government who urged people go out and buy it, no problem. >> bill: i'm glad you are admitting that. >> barney frank. all the presidents rep...