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That governor romney wants to reinstitute if he's elected president. >> you do have difficulties because you have an economic record, a sense of pessimism, you have a high unemployment rate. a referendum on the president guarantees what in your judgment? >> this president guarantees an economy that will grow and provide new opportunities for the middle class. it's not going to provide more of what we saw in the last decade with a narrowing group of people doing well and everybody else pedaling faster and faster. that's not a healthy economy. you build the economy from the middle out, not from ...

Republican party. that's the strategy. they're trying to make romney own all parts of the republican party. t just look at the economy part. you brought it up with david axelrod. that's the campaign here. >> right. which if obama wants to make it a referendum on the republican party and make romney own the most conservative element, romney just simply wants to say, no, no, no, you may like the president but you don't like this economy. >> that's exactly where we're headed. it's sort of in some ways a natural evolution. i mean, during the republican party -- during the republican primaries you ...

It work and do good things. this undercuts the progressive argument. >> what voters are looking for and how they're evaluating the candidates, chuck. let's talk about how where we actually are when this race begins. i thought it was interesting hearing david axelrod this morning is what an emerging strategy really is for this president against governor romney. actually it's a story that helene wrote on saturday which we can put the lead from up on the screen which has to do what his strategy is, is he going to be cast as a flip-flopper or something else? so long, flip-flopper, hello right-wing...

Didn't fix the economy past enou -- fast enough. two key groups, one a collection of groups and can mobile mobilize turnout among african-americans and young people. we're going to have to watch the polling carefully. a lot has been with the make-up of those samples. the other is the white working class. they lost them badly in 2008 but he lost by a small margin that he won the election. that's where romney has to win. he has real disadvantages. >> let me take a quick break here. we'll come back, more about this, including the vp stakes idea, who will romney choose? we'll come back. "meet th...

Break the impasse on spending, to break the impasse on taxes? to deal with real problems like medicare and social security. those have not been dealt with, which it seems to me, is one of the reasons people look to governor romney. >> i don't think he has a better shot to change business as usual. when all you do is take a negative approach as he has done, the only ideas he's offered are recycled ideas from the last decade. there was a spokesperson at the republican national committee who said this week that this is just the bush policies updated. she may not be elected employee of the month o...