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Against him. do the anti-mitt romney forces have his ear? >> i think gingrich probably has his tear some extent. he was an early adopter that got on the train early. and a lot of this comes down to these are loyalists and these are not. one thing i think we have to look at with the devos pick. an appeal, not just to the gop establishment but to the donor class. obviously, mitt romney has a huge rolodex. devos is a major donor.

Their angle here is pretty clear but it does raise the question donald trump as he makes these deliberations, do they have his ear? does a huckabee, does a gingrich, do anti-mitt romney forces have his ear? >> i think gingrich probably has his ear to some extent. he was an early adopter that got on the trump train early while a lot of other republicans were still dragging their feet. and a lot of this comes down to these are loyalists and these mitt romney in the latter category. rudy giuliani in the former category. one thing i think we have to look at with the devos pick. some of the folks o...

Huckabee. than mitt romney when they ran against him. do the anti-mitt romney forces have his ear? >> i think gingrich probably has his tear some extent. he was an early adopter that got on the train early. these are loyalists and these are not. one thing i think we have to an appeal, not just to the gop establishment but to the donor

In retrospect you wonder where in lie the surprise for the romney forces because consistently they showed in the targeted states in those nine swing states that this was going to be the outcome, but they were thinking that yard signs necessarily equated with votes when they didn't. they were measuring rally attendance when they should have been looking at hard data. and so it's all a part of what i said a moment ago and what karen is saying. it's a big country. you got to embrace it or it will do you in for future cycles because demographics are not on the side of the sgchgop. >> is there a ch...

Campaign has spent nearly $300 million on ads. the romney campaign has spent half of that. but when you factor in those outside groups, the super pacs and all that dirty, angry money out there, the pro romney forces are vastly outspending the pro obama forces by $455 million to $352 million.