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Candidate of appealing to the center but that's why he's in difficulty with the evangelical vote and conservative vote. what he did to newt gingerich is pretty bad as an image. not only was he negative but disowns responsibility for the commercials his super pac paid for. he should have stepped up and said of course these are my people and this is part of the campaign. so it's part of the romney problem -- i happen to like the man and think his sons love him and any father that can be that loved by sons has to be pretty good. he has a problem of authenticity. >> the news last night was the ric...

Top? >> i'm hearing it's going to take a while tonight, rachel. i think that's a statement in itself. too early to call can be misinterpreted to meaning it's going to be a close race. i'm taking it that way because romney is not racing above this pack or out in front of this pack. the fact that he's being challenged by someone so limited in their political appeal as rick santorum who was defeated in pennsylvania by 17% for re-election shall the fact that ron paul is able to challenge him in a serious race for president, with all his baggage, tells you that the republicans are not lining up beh...

>> they very cleverly cut in the fact he had the ethics violation and left congress with fannie mae and freddie mac. >> okay. >> that can cut down here. >> it can because of the foreclosure. but again, it doesn't deal with the romney problem. and ultimately, that's the issue. he has a message problem. >> who do you want fighting obama? chuck todd and howard fineman, thank you. you can watch the debate tonight at 9:00 eastern with brian williams. the big fight on nbc. coming up, the base is revolting. no one channels the right wing's hatred not just of barack obama better and that's ahead. you'...

Top? >> i'm hearing it's going to take a while tonight, rachel. i think that's a statement in itself. too early to call can be misinterpreted to meaning it's going to be a close race. i'm taking it that way because romney is not racing above this pack or out in front of this pack. the fact that he's being challenged by someone so limited in their political appeal as rick santorum who was defeated in pennsylvania by 17% for re-election shall the fact that ron paul is able to challenge him in a serious race for president, with all his baggage, tells you that the republicans are not lining up beh...

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