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Everyone there when they're born gets given a number. what is the significance of that? >> well, the amazing thing about north korea is that it takes totalitarianism to an entirely new level, besides all the control and the repression, there's a classification system that is superimposed on the entire society. you're literally born into a station in life and the rest of your life is dictated by that station. hundreds of thousands of people are sent to work camps of different orders. there are camps for lesser offenses, misdemeanors, and you can spend the rest of your life in a penal camp if yo...

Based on the seismic signature, what appears to be a more successful nuclear test. it looks like they're getting closer to the objective of developing a nuclear tipped ballistic missile to reach the united states. they're not there yet, but there's nothing stopping them right now. >> the situation is that north korea's two medium-range missiles remain fueled and ready to fire on the country's east coast. there's been no heightened movement or activity in the country's military that would suggest an imminent rocket launch. this is a very strange country, as well as being a pretty dangerous coun...

But what you're referring to here, the uniformity, the totalitarianism, all this creates an atmosphere in which, as much as we want to dismiss the bluster, wouldn't be a wise thing to do. >> victor cha, a lot of american comedians have had a lot of fun at kim jong-un's expense. and generally at north korea. but that probably doesn't help in a country where saving face and honor are extremely important to the leadership here. what should the american administration led by, say, john kerry in south korea, how should they be conducting themselves with the north koreans would you say? >> i would a...

That one is not dealing with canadians on anyone else that is in a normal range, as both of my colleagues said. all that makes the situation more dangerous. i think if there's one thing everybody's concerned about, it is someone making a miscalculation. it young man, who is the totalitarian leader, presumably with some influence from his relatives, is outside of the normal range of diplomatic leadership. i think we're fortunate that in south korea we have -- well, she's a new president. she's quite experienced, president pak. that's a good thing in a time of crisis. but what you're referring t...

Closing the gulags and everything else. this is an open-and-shut case as far as we're concerned. president roosevelt spoke about the human rights abuses of the axis powers. this is the kind of thing you do when you're speaking about a re c re kals i trast enemy. >> thank you. >> thank you. kidd rock, completely honest. what he has to say about obama, the gop and about money. [ male announcer ] at his current pace,