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Circumstances should have been communicated earlier. >> absolutely. first of all, it wasn't really the v.a. that contacted the family. it was the office of inspector general, which is really a different division, sort of a watchdog of the v.a. the v.a. still never contacted the family. >> okay. but still, a long delay here in them finding out. do you know why it took so long for the family to be notified of these circumstances? >> we actually think this is just a huge system failure because each time there's a death under suspicious circumstances or unexpected circumstances, it's supposed to b...

Nine million and ten million. we have all of these bills, named like they're going to solve the problem but they don't. what we need to do, we have to gather the information, we have to do a root cause analysis and we have to fix this problem. we're trying to do that now with the family separation issue. i was back in d.c. yesterday meeting with dhs and majority and minority staff trying to solve that one aspect by going through the problem sowing process. >> charles: sir, last night president trump in your state of wisconsin. another rousing rally there. how did it go? how do you see the elec...

We have held over two dozen hearings on some aspect of our unsecured border? i'm looking at producing peace legislation myself. a bunch of us are working on this. this is a problem we want to fix but we have to do root cause analysis. we can't look at just all the rhetoric around this thing. we have to look at facts and solve the problem which we have not done. one thing we have done is i go back and list about six or seven laws passed and then i list the number of people in the country illegally going from 3.5 million to 6 to 12 million people in the country illegally. we have never fixed the...

Come through our jurisdiction as opposed to judiciary committee, as well. a bunch of us are working on this. this is a problem we all want to fix, but we have to do the root cause analysis. we can't rely on demagoguery, can't look at just, you know, all the rhetoric around this thing. we actually have to look at facts. we have to actually solve the problem, which we have not done. one of the things we have done in those hearings is i go back to 1986 and i listen to about six or seven laws passed to fix the problem. and then alongside those laws i list the number of people in this country illeg...

476 d $476. and here's the new trend line. one thing i laid out for our senate colleagues who were saying the senate bill would reduce premiums 30% to the trend line, we're still not bringing it down to where we should, if we tul did a root cause analysis of what caused this trend line to increase and we have the answer, because hhs, commissioner study by mckenzy. here's one example, ten. their premiums tripled in t tennessee for a 40-year-old male. >> nonmedicaid expansion site. >> here's the main cause. covering people's conditions. and community rating. chris, here's the good news. you can ...