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Years off. >> i'm going to tell you something, neil, that surprised me and i'm supposed to know this. i thought that some of these measures wouldn't start kicking in at the earliest till 2023. well, i forgot here in the government we make everything complicated. fiscal year 23 starts in the fourth quarter of this year. that's when 13 million people start saving $800 on average per household with lower healthcare coverage. that is in a few months from now. that is really fast implementation phase-in for that part of this bill. >> neil: so let me ask you about another component that you talk abo...

We didn't really look into these. you know, we didn't audit these. but, you know, somehow everything in there is -- and then they're trying to say that everything in there doesn't contain any material discrepancies, just one building, 40 wall street. it's one of the iconic buildings of the financial district. trump has owned it for a while. at one point they had a 3,300% discrepancy between the value that was stated to tax authorities and the value that was stated to deutsche bank and other lenders. 3,300%. that's not a mistake. that's not a rounding error. that's not a miscalculation when you...

At one point they had a 3,300% discrepancy between the value that was stated to tax authorities and the value that was stated to deutsche bank and other lenders. 3,300%. that's not a mistake. that's not a rounding error. that's not a miscalculation when you're doing microsoft excel. if that's not material, nothing's material. >> it's a good point to raise because it goes back to the substance and nature of the investigation itself, the idea of overvaluing, devaluation, all with an eye perhaps of avoiding tax liability and other aspects as well. christian snell, thank you so much. nice to see y...

50 billion from the strategic reserve it's a rounding error, expect $100 oil, $5 a gallon for gasoline for years to come because of the damage. 20 million and refined products. >> jessica: we shall continue on the break, don't call it looting, leaders being accused of making excuses as robberies continue. ♪ ♪

Every day. it's expensive to be broke, right? you're paying for so many things that cost you extra because you don't have a lot of money. can you talk about the way sort of the tax burden actually really does fall in weird different ways because of sales taxes and others on working people, no? >> absolutely. sales taxes are something that, you know, people, every time the income tax is talked about and wealthy people say you must not do that, they don't realize that sales taxes take a much bigger bite out of the incomes of poor and middle class people than they do out of wealthy people. elon m...