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Do not respond in any way, that you are either inept or you have some ulterior motive of which you are functioning from. >> and here he is, wayne slater, senior political writer at the "dallas morning news." nice to have you back, wayne. >> great to be with you. >> okay. so far let's not even go there and talk about any potential trip to the border. let's focus with you, right, on this meeting this evening between president obama and governor perry. what do you know? is it just the two of them? how much time is allotted, where will this meeting take place? >> at the moment, here's what's plann...

That talk show with some of the miners last night. i understand it, so this is a combination of a talk show oprah and jay leno, correct? >> reporter: yeah. it's a little bit -- i mean, it's a news magazine show. the host is a sports wroert, former sports reporter. it was really in-depth interview. for the first time we're really starting to learn more of the details of those horrific 70 days. even though the miners all, again, emphasized they have a pact, this had had this sort of roundtable discussion where they agreed on what they would say, what they wouldn't tell about their stories, the h...