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But you specifically asked him if he was on the same page with nancy pelosi. he didn't say "yes." he also didn't say "no," but he did say, you know, if that's what it will take, we will get there. we're not there yet. but he didn't give you a yes or no definitive answer. >> i heard that also. from a legal standpoint, laura coates, would it make much of a difference in obtaining documents from the administration, in getting witnesses to appear before the committee, if there was a formal, formal proceeding underway as opposed to this informal inquiry that's going on? >> well, yes, the subpoena p...

Grand jury material, people that may have been looked at, you're not supposed to move that forward. >> i want to be precise, jay and mr. mayor. both of you say the president didn't do anything wrong as far as obstruction of justice or collusion. if he didn't do anything wrong, i assume he has nothing to hide and that all this information that robert mueller collected should be made available to congress. >> well, we can't say that because we don't know -- we understand the facts we know. we don't know what the grand jury material would be that would affect other people or declarations made to ...

police and the bad guys in which either the bad guy was killed and his gun was left at the scene or used during the commission of a crime in which the gun was left behind. >> that makes no sense to me. >> between reasonable men within the law enforcement community, no, there is no reasonable explanation to let these guns walk. >> two of those guns made their way back north to the scene where border agent brian terry was shot dead a year and a half ago. he just finished buying christmas presents for his family. two months later, atf agent sopada was killed in mexico by a one of a batc...

that is, not until people started dying. >> the only way you're going to find those guns in mexico is where? >> at crime scenes. at the death, at the site of somebody who's dead. at a gun battle between the police and the bad guys in which either the bad guy was killed and his gun was left at the scene or used during the commission of a crime in which the gun was left behind. >> that makes no sense to me. >> between reasonable men within the law enforcement community, no, there is no reasonable explanation to let these guns walk. >> two of those guns made their way back north to the ...