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I'm reading the notes provided by the reporters visiting the president. there's a difference between governing and signing executive orders. how do you frame that for people saying this is messaging but not necessarily accomplishing change. >> there is a limited amount you can do with executive orders. now, this is all about regulations, and it's fine to identify rules that you think are unnecessary but the way you fix rule make something through rule making. you can't do that through executive orders. you have to do new rule making. that's a process that takes some time, so as much as any pre...

He denied the agenda is anti-environment, instead -- >> oftentimes in rule making, regulators have changed rules in midstream. they will tell you the greatest impediment they've had is regulatory uncertainty. >> addressing the flint, michigan, water crisis and the flood in california and other environment infrastructure problems. the cleanup of superfund sites and the inclusion of localities and private property owners need epa decision-making. >> when you think about farmers and ranchers around the country, they recognized to be good stewards of their assets long term. >> pruitt made no menti...

Anti-environment, instead -- >> oftentimes in rule making, regulators have changed rules in midstream. they will tell you the greatest impediment they've had is regulatory uncertainty. >> addressing the flint, michigan, water crisis and the flood in california and other environment infrastructure problems. the cleanup of superfund sites and the inclusion of localities and private property owners need epa decision-making. >> when you think about farmers and ranchers around the country, they recognized to be good stewards of their assets long term. >> pruitt made no mention of climate change to ...

Isolatings by frrp. >> well, if i may respectfully disagree with a little is that some people were caught in detention for a few hours because i didn't do all the rule making and go through the procedures. i don't think he will think that that is the minus that we may think for people who cover government as it unfolds in a usually more orderly, consistent way. so i'm reserving judgment for the moment, fred, if there is any political damage to the short or long-term. i think we will see the upshot of the series of executive actions that are being rushed when it comes to presenting the budget t...

Lot of the regulations, most of them, the guts of it, was really subject to interpretation and rule making by the department of health and human services. it didn't even necessarily have to every dot and "t" crossed didn't get done by congress even with all those 4,000 pages. so this is a law where the guts are dealing with it -- are so much done by hhs and the regulations, that's why this is important. and so when you talk about litigation, you know, step one, let's get someone in there with the power to do something, whatever it is. >> i don't know who the head of the hhs is as of this momen...