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>> let's bring simone sanders back into this conversation. some of, what will happen next? >> so staff, what is going to happen next. as peter-elect, mccarthy, will come in. he will be part of the speaker -- he will likely speak for a time. previously we were told that people in our and are standing that congress would follow the rules package, and adopt the rules. because right now there are no rules governing congress. and frankly, there's no member of congress until they get sworn in. the republicans do not have the votes as they have the rules package. so they've sent a statement, around, ...

It was not as inspiring, but i was very struck by the point he made about wanting to get to work for the american people. and the things he lifted off that they would do were about investigating the origin of covid-19. he talked about specifically looking into what happened with the pull out from afghanistan. again, not things that were on the minds of voters. >> i was >> i was surprised at the red surprised at the red meat meat he threw that he threw to two conspiracy conspiracy theorist, theories particularly with particularly with the covid the covid stuff. stuff. after after the week he ha...

And just to give a little history here, there have been 53 men and one woman who have had this position. kevin mccarthy backs the 55th. the first speaker of the house was sworn in april 1st, 1789. so you think about the history of this moment for a guy that was really trying to get this job for a long, long time, tried to get it in 2015. he's the first speaker back-to-back to be from california, obviously nancy pelosi from california. and the question is how he's going to be able to govern. that's the next thing tonight is the debate and the vote on the rules package, and that could last late ...

Given that, i want to know what he gave up? i want to know what he actually gave up to not give up his bid for speakership, he kept on giving more stuff up and we do not know. we may found out with the rules package, but we don't know what it is. we don't know what he traded to get all these votes. and what they need to come around. >> yeah, there is a verse in the bible, that says, what is it caused the man to gain the whole world and lose his soul. i think that's actually a classic, kevin mccarthy here. we don't know what he gave up, but i think that we should bold underline, and i want to s...

>> i suspect most likely is that last one. we'll see what happens. that's how nancy pelosi, who i think is much better, this has managed us in the past as we heard from -- steve kornacki, thank you very much. congressman ted lieu, vice chair of the democratic congress -- he helped draft a resolution to impeach donald trump on this day two years ago. congressman, first let me just start with how you understand this congress the state of american democracy on this, the second anniversary of january six at the end of the most drawn out speakers battles since the advent in the beginning of the civ...