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Rumsfeld rules. it's awesome. he's such a stud. it's great. >> sorry, bob. >> bob: when you say that, my stomach goes. go ahead. >> kimberly: coming out of tragedy, there are often moments that are memorable and heart wrenching. this is one of them. barbara garcia, a survivor of the massive tornado that struck the oklahoma suburb. she's talking to a reporter for an interview and she's looking for her lost dog. >> i hollered for my little dog and didn't answer, he didn't come. i know he's in here somewhere. >> the dog. the dog. >> hi, puppy. >> oh. oh. oh. come on. >> oh. god just answered one ...

Talking. >> and if the a.p. had it, they had it. it's not like it's going to disappear. and they already knew what was in it. so i just don't know. i want to let the grass grow on that one a little bit and see what i think about it. but one of my rules in the book is if you don't know, it's perfectly all right to say you don't know. >> straight ahead, guess what the name of the irs softball team is? you are not going to believe it. you are not going to believe it. my mantra? always go the extra mile. to treat my low testosterone, i did my research. my doctor and i went with axiron, the only un...

Administration is facing the perfect storm. earlier tonight we spoke with secretary rumsfeld about all the latest scandals. his advice to the president and his brand new book "rumsfeld rules." nice to see you, sir. >> thank you. >> you have a brand new book, rumsfeld rules. you told me about it the last time i spoke to you. >> it's been fun. i enjoy doing it. i started collecting those rules as a youngster and i have been doing it for just under 80 years. >> in looking at the rules, i'm thinking in light of what's going on for the present we have the a.p. scandal, we have benghazi we have the ...

It seemed like they were talking. >> and if the a.p. had it, they had it. it's not like it's going to disappear. and they already knew what was in it. so i just don't know. i want to let the grass grow on that one a little bit and see what i think about it. but one of my rules in the book is if you don't know, it's perfectly all right to say you don't know. >> straight ahead, guess what the name of the irs softball team is? you are not going to believe it. we will tell you next. look at 'em.

The former defense secretary's new book is "rumsfeld rules" and joins me now on the grill. welcome to you, sir. >> thank you very much. >> how are you? >> excellent. >> we'll try and change that. >> come on. come on. >> you've been in this position where you get hit with all sorts of stuff. and it all comes at once. when you look at these three scandals in totality, are they real scandals or run of the mill issues that any white house has to deal with? >> well, one is bad. two is four and three is ten. the pressure is enormous in the white house when this happens. it's the perfect storm. of ou...