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I'm chris matthews on veterans day up here in boston. let me start tonight with this. it's a war of the worlds. one world is where you live. for you, america is a land of many people and many places. there's the deep south of cotton fields and warm summers. there's the california coast of sunny beaches and highways. there are rural areas where agriculture is king, a magnet for those ready for hard work. there are big cities in this world of yours, chicago, new york, miami, all rich in ethnicity and spicy in their diversity. there are suburbs where people take a tolerant view, where the prevale...

Disturbing. explain what happened there. >> well, the differences between these two presidents are so f d fundament fundamental. and the things that bill clinton is amazing at barack obama is terrible at. and things that barack obama is really strong at are things that bill clinton is terrible at. and so it's sort of like these two men are having this long running argument that goes across the years and the latest machine fe manifestation is this book. >> jodi, there's certainly criticism of president obama in this book. bill clinton does support the jobs plan. where does their relationship st...

Will change a lot of peoples' opinions. >> the latest polling in u.s.a. today gallup, people wanted it appealed and hoped their congress members would vote against it. right now you are in a battle, and you have been having a running argument. one of the attorney generals that filed suit against it, you think he is wrong on the law, but on the right side of the politics. >> yeah, and the question is, is it political or are they trying to help the people of pennsylvania? not only do i say he is wrong on the law, but ronald reagan's former solicitor general says it's preposterous. the federal go...

Ethnicity and spicy in their diversity. there are suburbs where people take a tolerant view, where the prevalent attitude is live and let live. in this america, your america, there are whites, blacks, latinos, people whose families came here from the asian pacific. there are progressives, moderates, and conservatives all engaged in a running argument about the kind of country they want to live in. the role they want this country playing around the globe. how we ought to be protecting ourselves. okay. that's how you see it. i got another world for you. it's mainly traditional, culturally conser...

Prevalent attitude is live and let live. in this america, your america, there are whites, blacks, latinos, people whose families came here from the asian pacific. there are progressives, moderates, and conservatives all engaged in a running argument about the kind of country they want to live in. the role they want this country playing around the globe. how we ought to be protecting oursds. okay. that's how you see it. i got another world for you. it's mainly traditional, culturally conservative, closed in, if you will. it doesn't go to the movies. it keeps its entertainment options to reality...