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Need consent of the person you're recording. but by and large, i think this is just going to be part of the body of evidence that the feds look at when they're investigating the full gamut of michael cohen's business activities. >> jeremy, finally, two words. scooter libby. what should we think about the effort to pardon him, which has apparently been pushed by, among others, attorney general joe digenova, and his wife, also an attorney? >> it's a strange one, brian, because of course scooter libby had his sentence commuted by president bush. president bush did not pardon scooter libby. the pa...

Apparently been pushed by, among others, attorney general joe digenova, and his wife, also an attorney? >> it's a strange one, brian, because of course scooter libby had his sentence commuted by president bush. president bush did not pardon scooter libby. the pardon is really nothing other than saying for history's purposes, to scooter libby's family and for his reputation, you know, this criminal conviction has been expunged. it's meaningless. some people say it might be setting the stage for other pardons. i'm not sure. i think this is part of a long running effort by scooter libby's friends...