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Election efforts, and how close those powers get to sow doubt they are expressing about election results that have already happened in their states? >> so, generally speaking the secretary of state in an individual state is the top election official in that state. they are in charge of running elections, they are in charge of how [inaudible] its important also to remember in a presidential election, it's basically the totals from each county and each state that are then tallied up and sent to the secretary of state. so if the secretary of state can past doubts on the very total in the individu...

But it is fundamentally important to note we are a, you know, nation of laws, not of people, and we have ways of running elections. those are set in stone and we run elections by those laws. you know, we've done this for hundreds of years, a couple hundred years. that's how democracies work, especially american democracies work. what we're seeing right now is an attack on the rules by which we run our elections and a systematic attempt to call into question the outcome based on what? based on no evidence. based on violating the rules on which the elections were run, and trying to run around i ...

I -- elections project. professor stewart, it's an honor to have you with us tonight. >> it's good to be here, thanks for having me. >> let me first ask you if -- if i'm asking the right questions looking at the right universe of concerns. the kind of framing that i put up, the way i set it up, do you think it's the right way to look at it? >> there is a big concern here which is the undermining of american democracy. look, it is commonplace but it is important to note that we are a nation of laws, not of people, and we have ways of running elections. those are set in stone and really run the ...

That during his presidency he repeatedly continued the lies from the highest office in the land and the continued lies, particularly about the election, that the election was stolen, the repetitive nature of that, he was the president of the united states, but that has changed a lot of people's minds for good. and it is going to be difficult to bring them back -- it's not about bringing them back into the main stream, it's about bringing them back to constitutionalism and the belief that our electoral system is functional. what i'm afraid of now is that a generation of lower level gop official...

They're run without the expense of opening up the polling places, run instead by mail, montana is a huge state with not that many people in it. running an election by mail just makes economic sense in a state where the people are that spread out. and montana elections administrators have a lot of experience of running elections by mail because of it. why not do the congressional election as well, just mail everybody a ballot? here's the tea time county clerk and recorder making the case, "as representative zinke's pending appointment looms over montana, election administrators across the state...