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They were interviewing friends of his and they said to a t we thought it was so funny and joked around that it looked like him. it seemed to be a running theme with a lot of people they knew. maybe they took it to the next level. >> even if you think that at first and then you go into his room which first of all why would you do that if you didn't think it was him? well that's possible. then once you saw empty fireworks and stuff like that, are you saying that they just thought oh this might look bad, but we don't think it was him. >> i know for a fact that at that aiming i would mott have ass...

Generally applies to international terrorism. we have no evidence at the moment of that. it requires that the intention be to coerce the government. it has a whole series of things that make it into terrorism. the lawyers will challenge whether this is federal because they'd rather have it be a state charge, no death penalty in massachusetts, yes, federal death penalty but there has to be federal jurisdiction. >> if they win and he is found guilty in massachusetts under their state law, what will happen? >> life imprisonment in massachusetts. the other thing they could probably charge is consp...

That it requires the intention be to coerce the government, and it has a whole series of things that make it into terrorism. the lawyers will challenge whether this is federal because they rather have it be a state charge, and no death penalty in massachusetts. yes, federal death penalty but there has to be federal jurisdiction. >> if they win the argument and he is found guilty in massachusetts under their state law, what will happen? >> life in prison. >> in massachusetts? >> in massachusetts. and they could charge conspiracy to murder. >> the running theme today seems to be the older brothe...

Criticized the founding fathers, that they did leave out notions. it only applied to men of a certain level in the economy. he never said it that way, but that is really what was going on. >> yes, but, he is saying yes, they fell short. but the ideals they put out there should still guide us. >> they left a brilliant framework for improvement. >> which was what king talked about, this promissory note. the idea that king and the founding fathers being the north star here. he used it in the nobel prize speech. it gets back to a running theme for the president all along, which is the world as it ...

Campaign has had a running theme for months on end, very consistent about being the advocate and the fighter for the middle class. there was quite a middle class fight in wisconsin over the last two years. are those workers there with the president? is this what's going to put the president over the top? >> i think there's no question that wisconsin progressivism is going to be a key ingredient in this election and that the president is speaking very directly to wisconsin progressives and when he says sometimes you're a little disappointed by the face of change but you know where i stand and y...