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Now he is central to trying to understand what the -- was there collusion? this suggests there was more collusion than we thought and there is more evidence building up. it's not dispositive. it doesn't settle things. it's still early. i will tell you this, that it also -- for a long time we were asking why is donald trump so solicitous of vladimir putin. now we have the second question, why was he -- why has he been so solicitous of michael flynn? we really need the answers to those questions. >> it seems to continue to -- whether it's loyalty or i don't know what, continue to think fondly of...

As nefarious as people think in terms of the russia angle. it could simply be that donald trump has a fragile ego, demands absolute loyalty, and has no impulse control. and frankly, you could argue that's more dangerous in a president than the notion that they were coordinating with the russians in advance of the election. >> if it is dangerous in either case, matt, is it dangerous enough that republicans on capitol hill will step in and say, enough? do they feel like it's time to say enough? >> well, i think that there's going to be -- that that is a process, obviously. republicans have -- th...

Does he take too much credit in the past for these things or is this right up his alley? what do you believe? >> about roger stone? >> yes. >> he is one of a kind. anyone who followed his career over time ends up being kind of amazed at the various things, the prongs he's involved with. >> the conspiracy theories and the blogs about the conspiracy theories. >> also, he is a very canny analyst in politics. i think it would be wrong to only focus on the russia angle. >> and i want to get to that. i thought his take was spot on. >> somebody who revvs in this age of being the mad svengali of polit...

Schwarzenegger. >> which by the -- >> say no more. >> don't let us get distracted by that, as well. >> yes. >> would we be talking about this at all if he hadn't been tweeted that at all? >> about the russia angle. >> would we be talking about sessions? >> he made two pieces of news, not just he said that there was no court order and assuming he just wasn't being careful with his words it sounded fairly categorical to me, and the other was that there was no evidence of collusion when he was there between the trump campaign and the russians so what have we been talking about for the last three ...

>> yes. >> but i have to ask myself, would we be talking about this at all if at all if he had not tweeted that out? >> we'd talk about the russia angle. >> talking about sessions. >> right. but he actually made two pieces of news here this morning, not just he said there's no court order and assuming he was not careful with the words, it sounded fairly categorical to me, but the other one that was there is simply no evidence of collusion, at least while he was there, which was until very recently between the trump campaign and russians. what we talking about for the last three weeks? >> so th...