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Policies of donald trump regarding russia. we're constantly told by his critics he's a puppet of putin. he's not a good puppet if he is. he's armed the ukraine, slapped sanctions on russia. went to warsaw and gave probably the most anti russia speech since the cold war. both in words and deeds he's making life difficult for vladimir putin. >> you believe that? you think he's been too tough on russia? >> no. come on, steve. why do you think he's getting this criticism? it's because objectively he has been in a bromance with putin. he never confronts him face-to-face, he never talks about it. if...

Further intelligence from the united states. and that's why, again, this is not just a matter of looking backward. it's an important question for our future because it's important that americans, when they go to the ballot box and those in other countries as well, understand and be assured that the russians haven't been there first. >> no question there's a lot to deal with in the future. but because you were there, i have to ask. you said that more could have been done. did president obama make a mistake in not doing more? >> well, he did -- took some steps, no question about it. but i think ...

Well, understand and be assured that the russians haven't been there first. >> no question there's a lot to deal with in the future. but because you were there, i have to ask. you said that more could have been done. did president obama make a mistake in not doing more? >> well, he did -- took some steps, no question about it. but i think you see from vladimir putin's answer right now that more needs to be done. putin is not convinced that there are going to be consequences of a magnitude for russia, as a consequence of interfering with the u.s. election that make it unwise for him to do it in...

Understand why this could not go well, but on the other hand this will appeal to trump -- trump doesn't like to lose. and i think he will push back in some degree. i don't think on the meddling, but i think he'll push back on some other things. what you would fear as an american is the first kind of meeting jack kennedy had when he went overseas and met with krush khrushchev in vienna right back in '61, and he just beat him up in the meeting. kennedy left there saying we've got to find a way to get back at him and i think we need to do it at vietnam. it was the roots of vietnam pushing back. s...

Donald trump has a game plan going into this meeting. so it is -- it would be easy to understand why this could not go well, but on the other hand this will appeal to trump -- trump doesn't like to lose. and i think he will push back in some degree. i don't think on the meddling, but i think he'll push back on some other things. what you would fear as an american is the first kind of meeting jack kennedy had when he went overseas and met with krushov in vienna right pack in '61 and he just beat him up in the meet. kennedy left there saying we've got to find a way to get back at him and i think...