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Budget. and then this, this is what that clean cr is shockingly close to, the 2014 ryan budget of $966 billion, the ryan budget. >> this year's ryan budget turns out looks like last year's ryan republican budget. i wasn't the only one that said gee whiz, not again. >> there are many reasons to oppose the ryan budget. paul ryan's budget is march madness. >> okay, the very thing that the president of the united states ran against when he won re-election, that is the ryan budget. so the spending level that democrats have already agreed to, that they are begging republicans please to accept is ess...

Going to start micromanaging in that way? this is not how americans deserve for them to run the government. >> why wouldn't you open one thing at a time? >> if you're the majority leader of the senate and you say can you save one child and you say why should i? talk about optics. >> terrible. terrible optics. that's unconscionable. >> he's going to bet beat up for that. i think we all know that reid cares a lot about kids. one of the things that's so weird to me is that he's now suddenly that republicans care so much about this particular program and yet the budget they voted for have defunded...

History is the debt ceiling has always been used as a point of negotiation. by the way, chris, i never voted against the debt ceiling increase, i never voted against it whether it came with president clinton or bush or president obama. >> which strikes me as commendable and precisely the exact thing that everyone should do. particularly the majority party that knows the thing has to be passed, right? >> well, in the end it will be passed. it will be inexcusable were it not passed. but it is a point. our government is not functioning in regular order any longer and has not been for a long time....

Obama care to keep government open for eight weeks then we're going to be right back in the same situation again eight weeks from now? >> granted we all agree these are c.r. after c.r. the past five years have been ridiculous. how can you have a budget -- look i don't know about the politicians but i think the rest of america wants a budget and a well-thought-out budget and this is ridiculous how it's been operating. what is happening here what you're calling the tea party republicans which is a good deal of them but majority of republicans in the house and about 98% of republicans in the sena...

Budget was there was a chance for the budget on the real budget. >> in dream lanl possibly. >> in a divided government that wean eave the past few years, there . >> let me ask you in the minute that we have left. should these congress people get paid in the middle of all this? you. >> probably not. >> i think we tend to focus on that sort of thing. whether it is six weeks of pairing it won't be a huge disincentive. most congress minutes are worth millions. it won't be a seismic difference one way or the other. what i worry about if they can pay their bills on time. that's an enormous impact. >...