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Cpi idea, even if people don't like it, what it did was it split the republican party which is what you want to do in politics. so yesterday you saw them all over the place. some of them saying, well, of course, we have to embrace this, we're for entitlement reform. others trying to pander to seniors. and he's going to be in a much stronger position on the budget because of the budget he just proposed and we'll get something solid, if not a grand bargain, at least a good bargain. on immigration, the gang of eight in the senate is moving forward some kind of an agreement there which i think wil...

Anybody with any money. we're not going to reform the tax system so it's a fairer system. you guys are going to do that, reason you? that's what you're planning to do, isn't it? just what i just said? >> well, i think if you look at the budget, the ryan budget, it had fundamental entitlement reforms and i think it called for some tax reform and i think part of that entitlement reform includes means testing which means rich people couldn't get the benefits that they were used to getting. i think that's part of this. let me defend greg walden here for a second. his job is to elect republicans. f...

Legal authority. mr. obama, in the thoughtful election, he's evolved and gotten there to where now it clearly is the most significant change most of us have seen in the last six, seven, eight or nine years. >> now, jonathan, you jump in here on the other three. we're looking at gun control, some sort of grand bargain on the economy, with fiscal policy and taxes and spending thrown in, and we're looking for my standard -- maybe i'm tougher than most people on the liberal side -- i want to see a real workable, sustainable, enforceable immigration policy we're proud of and we wish to enforce. i w...

And not really mincing words. greg walden is being told to walk it back. >> yeah, he is and i think it goes to what richard said. and maggie. there is right now this little conversation that is sort of erupting publicly. within the party as to exactly how do we now reframe this? i think the president did very adroitly put out a budget. he put out, okay i've heard you talk about this chain cpi stuff. here you go, now what? >> now they can't take it. now you can't take it. you sit there and you're going to go well, if we support it then we're cutting programs for seniors. but wait a minute, demo...

There are children who have had to enter a lottery to determine which of them get to stay in their headstart program with their friends. there are seniors who depend on programs like meals on wheels that they can live independently but who are seeing their services cut. that's what the so-called sequester means. some people may not have been impacted, but there are a lot of folks who are being increasingly impacted throughout this country. and that's why my budget replaces these cuts with smarter ones, making long-term reforms, eliminating actual waste and programs we don't need anymore. so bu...