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Senate. the author of the ryan budget which just a few years back the first iteration of it wanted to essentially privatize medicare is now the speaker of the house. have you had any interest from republicans on any of this? is this a doable, accomplishable thing with the current congress? >> so let me point out that republicans have criticized this particular loophole already, which is really interesting. senator grassley has gone after it. senator mccain partnered up with senator levin a couple of years ago to eliminate this loophole. and the republicans in the house, in 2014, said a big par...

What has happened to the republican party? >> well, my question is where has john kasich been for, like, the last 30 year sfs he described each of those positions as being held by one guy a piece. there's an entire wing of his base's party that wants a flat tax and says so on right wing talk radio every day. as far as changing medicare and medicaid, there are 247 or so house member, republican members who voted every year for the ryan budget which would turn medicare into a voucher, into a coupon, essentially. they voted for that year after year after year. some of these ideas, most of them ha...

For re-election as a senator from vermont and he showed no reservations when it came to attacking his republican opponent. >> john, i think you did say, if i remember correctly, that the ryan budget was quote/unquote, too timid and you would be bolder. did you say that? >> i did. i did. >> and let's be clear, what the ryan budget does is make devastating cuts in virtually every social program. $700 billion over a ten-year program in medicaid, ending medicare as we know it right now, major cuts in pell grants, major cuts in nutrition programs and i have no doubt that that's there as well. there...

Over the map but they've escaped that vetoing function the donor class imposes which i would argue in some ways ends up making less electable candidates. >> i mean, i think that's right. and i think that one thing there, though, is that it isn't just the side dish issues. it isn't just -- as you say, the iran deal is very, very important a certain segment of party establishments and less important to voters. but trumps heterodoxies are fundamental. his heterodoxies are he has supported single payer. his heterodoxies are he's given money to the clintons. instead of going after entitlements -- l...

Making less electable candidates. >> i mean, i think that's right. and i think that one thing there, though, is that it isn't just the side dish issues. it isn't just -- as you say, the iran deal is very, very important a certain segment of party establishments and less important to voters. but trumps heterodoxies are fundamental. his heterodoxies are he has supported single payer. his heterodoxies are he's given money to the clintons. instead of going after entitlements -- like take the ryan budget, which was the core of republican party policy thinking for the last couple years, he will actu...