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Apparently it's -- i mean, nobody has much record for it from who is residing in the white house. >> i think it's a key responsibility of any elected official first to do a budget. >> greta: i don't disagree with you. >> i think he avoids it for political reasons, he's waiting until the house does theirs and passes it. the only reason the senate democrats are doing it now because we passed no budget no pay. and what did pelosi say about it? she disagreed with it. she didn't think it was dignified. i think it's not dignified if you don't do your job. >> greta: i think it's terrible that we have...

Apparently it's -- i mean, nobody has much record for it from who is residing in the white house. >> i think it's a key responsibility of any elected official first to do a budget. >> greta: i don't disagree with you. >> i think he avoids it for political reasons, he's waiting until the house does theirs and passes it. the only reason the senate democrats are doing it now because we passed no budget no pay. and what did pelosi say about it? she disagreed with it. she didn't think it was dignified. i think it's not dignified if you don't do your job. >> greta: i think it's terrible that we have...

You look at what we have done over the last couple of years consistent with those bipartisan regulations. the difference between the house republican, the ryan plan, and the plan that democrats are putting forward, is that our plan begins really where the bipartisan commissions are in terms of the ratio of cuts to revenue going in. and that is why we say we have a balanced approach to this as opposed to an uncompromising approach. now i understand that paul's position is sort of their extremist position and hopefully by the end of the day we will be able to bridge these differences but it take...

I think they have never been accelerated. the ryan plan has always put off doing anything for ten years. the problem with the ryan plan is it isn't serious about saving money on medicare. because of that and other programs for the poor than the old. i think that's driven by what the republican coalition is. it's basically older people and wealthy people. it makes a lot more sense to cut in aid to the poor programs. i think that remains the same. i think it's going to be very difficult for paul ryan to propose a budget that's appealing and achieves a bunch of balance. >> despite the sequester b...

>> well, you know what? they didn't have to. here is the thing. this is the complication of being a minority conservative. right now, first of all, there is a huge boom in it there is a big career advancement in it. if you want to be ben carson, marco rubio, any brown or black person who is willing to say conservative stuff, this is your moment. you can make a lot of money, get a lot of attention, get a lot of love from the right, because they really do need brown and black faces to start saying this script. but the problem is in order to fit in as a minority conservative, you really almost ha...