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Herald his own plan or trumpet it. >> he danced around it in the state of the union. >> or ran away from it. >> you're going to have, and i think tonight might be a helpful step toward that. this is what in national security parlance they would call confidence building measures, right? david crone, the chief of staff for senator reid, has built a relationship with the chief of staff for the house speaker. those relationships matter. now i think harry reid believes that john boehner is somebody that he can deal with. these things matter. they're going to have to do it together. but the ryan pro...

System for private insurance for all of these elderly americans where basically told get money from the government and buy their own insurance. there are some people who would say it is simply changing the nature of medicare. medicaid, they want to change that to block grants to the states, basically that's the care off for disabled people and people who don't have a whole lot of money. they want the states to take over that. there's a provision to lower the top tax rates to 25% and end a lot of deddeductions. there are a lot of provisions in it. one thing about the ryan proposal is really mas...

They're talking about a voucher system for private insurance for all of these elderly americans where basically told get money from the government and buy their own insurance. there are some people who would say it is simply changing the nature of medicare. medicaid, they want to change that to block grants to the states, basically that's the care off for disabled people and people who don't have a whole lot of money. they want the states to take over that. there's a provision to lower the top tax rates to 25% and end a lot of deductions. there are a lot of provisions in it. one thing about th...

These things matter. they're going to have to do it together. but the ryan proposal is a setback for that, because it doesn't ask rich people to pay more after they've gotten now three tax cuts, each of which were nearly a trillion dollars. they say we're going to give you more tax cuts. we just did a poll, cnn, 85% of the american people say we ought to keep medicare where it is or increase it. 85%. so telling people we're going to abolish medicare -- >> i want to bring in tom forman. tom, give us a look at this ryan proposal and what we're talking about. >> this is a very broad brush, anders...

The opinion shifts. medicare is one of those. this idea of diverting it from a benefit program where you go to the doctor and you're guaranteed certain benefits into a defined contribution program where the government would only guarantee you a check every year to buy private insurance goes back to 1998 first hatched by a commission chair by john breaux. there was not another democrat who endorsed the idea until alice rivlin endorsed a similar plan with ryan. even she has renounced her support given the specifics of the ryan proposal. so this is a big roll of the dice for house republicans. th...