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In the written questions, there was some, as a surrogate of the campaign, were there meetings with the russians? it's ambiguous enough so that given the gravity of the charge, i think he should have an opportunity to go back before the committee and make what clarification he can and then the committee can decide how they -- whether they are satisfied with those explanations. >> senator, it's nick confessore. i'm thinking about the overall trump world here. carter page, paul manafort, you know, were thinking of flynn taking money from a russian propaganda outlet. thinking of these meetings. is...

Do, but he isn't a normal guy. mike mccurry and i were the back channels on the two campaigns. he was sort of back channeling with the kerrys and the edwards on that night and i was talking to the president and vice president and karl rove and what mick mccurry said, he thought he was going to be president all day. and he understands now that he thought -- >> kerry -- >> but the edwards haven't come around. so give them until the morning. there were some people in the president's circle who wanted him to claim his victory. the president said, no, no, no, i trust mike mccurry, let's sleep on it...

Ratio there. this piece points out 43% of obama's appointees have been women. but following a slew of nominations of white men for high possessions, we've seen them all. it looks like a lot of white guys getting good jobs. and hilda solis is resigning. going to talk to joan walsh. which is fun in this discussion. and eugene robinson who writes beautiful columns and you did it again on rg3. is there something wrong with this picture, joan walsh? as we look at it. >> yes. obviously there is, chris. it would be a somewhat different picture if valerie had been actually visible in it. so that's a s...

Unexpected comes along, it's really interesting and exciting. to me, the most interesting part of this, and i'd like to get your thoughts, most interesting part of this to me is the reaction to it. particularly from the right. it's always seem today me in talking to gay rights activists and gay donors and lgbt folks in the president's circle, it was going to be hard to avoid ending up at this point. i think a lot of us had suspicions that he believed this all along and his previous hete heterooxy was a tip of his cap. it was always clear to a lot of people that he was going to end up here. but...

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