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Plus, it's a premium to sit in the higher middle class, the upper middle class. you're going from the mid back to the business class and up to wealthy class. >> i mean, it's beyond just the seats. they charge you now for a snack, they charge you now for water. i mean, things that used to be commonplace on airlines, we are being nickel and dimed. why are we tolerating it? >> we have to go because it's for business or pleasure. taking your business for pleasure. you would rather fly three hours than drive for 15 hours with children. i assume that's a long drive. >> safe assumption. when it com...

Gun rights. it's rooted in his belief that it's a way to fight the government. let's watch. would this be a less free country if you couldn't have an assault rifle? >> yeah, because we have guns fundamentally protected by the second amendment. >> wait a minute -- >> to control the government. we have guns in order to control the government. >> not just the right to use guns to protect your home, it's the right to use guns to take on your government. >> the government has been overboard. >> these are people who think of themselves in the lager as the whites used to say in south africa. some day...

Huge enthusiasm gap here. you know president obama's supporters are motivated, they are enthusiastic but keep in mind this is not 2008 and even a difference of one or two percentage points in terms of turnout among, sort of core aspects of the democratic base could mean hundreds of thousands of votes. that's what the white house has to guard against. >> i was surprised to read 9% of republicans who went to the polls last time around in 2008 said they voted for barack obama. karl rove's piece suggests that he is not going to enjoy that kind of support among republican voters this time around? >...

>> it can be -- it really depends on the infrastructure of the region. if the homes are predominantly made of wood and strong, then there's potentially less damage from an earthquake in the night. however, if the -- if the area is many unreinforced masonry buildings, apartment buildings, complexes, nighttime can be the worse time because people are at home and sleeping. that would become clear in the following hours. >> is it a safe assumption, in light of the fact that chile is in an area prone to earthquake, that at least infrastructure-wise and also education-wise, the community would, perh...

I was in the navy during vietnam. and somebody was asking today who did you vote for in 1968, and i voted for richard nixon because i thought he would have a better chance of getting us out of vietnam. it was clearly a war -- well, he eventually did or -- >> larry: how do you win -- >> yeah. >> larry: or i'll ask when we come back, assuming there's a terrorist born today, safe assumption, how do you win a war on terrorism? we'll be right back. and you'll hear more of bob's interview with the president too. don't go away. f@@