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Person that was a producer and actor on the show and you're giving this long winded interview? i don't think you should be doing it. i think it does come down to mishandling of the firearm. there's no question it's mishandling. the issue is whether it's mishandling of the criminal or civil variety, which is limited to money. >> he said it was not his responsibility to make sure it was safe. he said that's the job of the armorer or the prop person, not the actor. what do you say to that? >> he's partially correct and partially incorrect. the armorer's responsibility is to ensure that weapon is ...

It's loud. they don't have their ear plugs in. the gun was supposed to be empty. i was told i was handed an empty gun. nothing with a charge at all, a flash round at all, nothing. she goes down. i thought to myself, did she faint? the notion that there was a live round in that gun did not dawn on me till probably 45 minutes to an hour later. >> 45 minutes to an hour? >> she's laying there and i go, did she get hit by wadding? sometimes the blank rounds have a wadding inside, that packs -- like cloth that packs the gun powder. sometimes wadding could come out and it feels like a poke. nobody co...

And if that were in fact true, as soon as he let go of the hammer it would fire the weapon, because the hammer would fall forward. >> so i just want to play that part of it again just for our viewers because this is really an important point. >> so then i said to her, now in this scene i'm going cock the gun. i said, do you want to see that in and she said yes. so i take the gun and i start to cock the gun. i'm not going to pull the trigger. she said tilt it down a little bit. i cock the gun and say, can you see that? then i let go of the hammer and the gun goes off. >> scott, you're saying th...

The cameraman soar someone working a sound boom, but they have the right to inspect the guns themselves prior to using the gun in the scene. that's definitely available to them so they can inspect it themselves and know that it is what we call a cold gun, a safe gun. >> right. so the tragedy has had many people calling for changes in the industry, some questioning the use of firearms on sets. i'm wondering what you think needs to be done to ensure that something like this never happens again. >> clearly the law enforcement officials need to complete their actual investigation, let there be a d...

Defense. you have the complete irrelevance of the expert. there's no question that george zimmerman fired the shot and he had the gun. it was much ado about nothing and mr. o'mara tried to do that. he also established that mr. zimmerman was responsible. pe used a responsible safe gun. close, of course it was close. trayvon martin was on top of the george zimmerman. no question about that. in fact it refutes any notion that george zimmerman would have concocted this. why would he wait for trayvon martin to be on top of him not knowing what's going to happen next. they know it would have been at...