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Enact comprehensive immigration reform. he didn't do it when he had the chance, and now at the 11th hour he comes up with this executive border. >> ann, we've been seeing governor pawlenty a lot lately. as you know, my colleague, lawrence o'donnell, thought that pawlenty would have been the pick. he went for him. he had the least strikes against him. when we look at the least strike -- or least struck man here, is he high on the list right now no that we clearly know rubio is out? >> look, there's no question that he would be at least based on what we know about him, a safe pick. i think rob p...

Mark, we're just struck by the contrast between rubio and between -- it was sort of like the boring guy versus the the charismatic guy if you will. >> that's really what you have. that marco rubio the one with a lot of sizzle. the question is, whether he's vetted or not. on the other hand, rob portman's a little boring, but he's the safe pick and as the romney campaign looks at the numbers, maybe boring is the right pick r for them. >> it's interesting watching this. last week, of course the much of conservatives were in chicago, some of the other vp tryouts took place. official and unofficial...

Slow summer. >> when we talk about the slow summer, does that mean that there's potential that the announcement of this pick could come a lot sooner than traditionally -- the 72-hour window prior to the convention? would that help drum up a little bit of excitement, especially if it's a safe pick, does it mean they'll get a 2 for 1 shot at fund-raising? >> i think that's exactly, that 2 for 1 idea is exactly the calculus. some republican, romney advisers are talking about that. i don't think anybody has set a date certain for when they want to have the vice presidential candidate out. as you j...

About it. so will mitt romney be pulled to the right by his right wing faction? will he decide from the gut, as i think john mccain did? that's really the insight we get out of this process. >> and i think there's also some interesting debate going on about timing, as yurngs michael, because there have been some reports that mitt romney is going to make the decision next month, well ahead of the convention. would that be a good idea frshgs your perspective? >> i don't think it would hurt him to do it before the convention. but the energy of the convention is what you want to capitalize on when...

Latino, hispanic, that would be a new flavor the white house as it were. but marco rubio, as you know, as come out with a fairly sane immigration policy, sort of a dream act light, and that's not going to please the base who are vehemently anti-immigration. so that's a problem for him. condoleezza rice has been mentioned, but i don't see her ever getting into politics. >> what about rob portman? >> rob portman, that's like a mayonnaise finally meets tapioca. can you imagine a less exciting duo than rob portman and mitt romney? it's just sort of two boring white guys out there. so his advantage...