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Those are the same people who would care about the extra $15 billion. clearly wave problem in this country with our finances. with paying them. for whatever reason. the question i have for you, should we even have a debt ceiling? does it do anything good for this country or not? >> obviously in the past few years it hasn't done much good. it has resulted in lower credit ratings and higher costs in terms of interest. so ultimately, to abolish the debt ceiling, it it would be a good thing. i think republicans and democrats in congress, they need to wake up and in terms of what they budget, they ...

Vote is over or before the vote is over, some senators, you know, switch their votes. so what i'm about to say might change by the time we see the final vote but john cornon is in a squeeze in texas because his junior senator is ted cruz but he is a member of the republican leadership, the establishment. he voted no. so that maybe shows you a good example of somebody whose got a push and a pull and a tug with their own constituent in the party. >> houston chronicle that endorsed ted cruz, everybody criticized him for how he handled this saying it doesn't make sense. as dana watches that vote, ...

To pay its bills, would vote against this. for political purposes. but i think there are apparently people who believe that is a good political vote for them. that is unfortune. that's what led to the shutdown and led to putting america's credit worthiness at risk and it has hurt us not only economically as you mentioned in terms of $24 billion of costs, people out of work. economic slowdown. but it has hurt our reputation around the world. very sad. we'll do the right thing only the and democrats will vote for it and i hope, i believe that a significant number of republican there's vote for i...

You reap what you sew. the republican party is reaping it but so will ted cruz. >> what about a no vote? when you hear him say he will vote no. you've been sitting in that seat. is that a smart vote? that's one of those votes that come back where people say you were willing to let the country default. >> 80% of the republicans in the house are from districts for romney got 55% or better. general elections are almost irrelevant to these people. and particularly the tea party. a no vote is the safe, safe vote. this is like a tarp vote. i voted for tarp. how many come back to hahn them in primari...

Republican congressman who plans to vote no against the deal. now a congressman who will vote yes. the second highest ranking in the senate. thank you for being here. >> good to follow tom and paul. >> what's your reaction when you heard joe barton say, look. then you heard what tom just said. a lot of people still hope it will pass but they're going on cast that no vote any way. it is a message vote. the analysis they made in term of the districts they're representing, they think people are thinking no vote is a responsible vote. i think it is a very irresponsible vote. neither party wins in ...