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They forget the four key facts. they forget the fact we have the call transcript and no quid pro quo, the two guys on the call have said repeatedly it was no pressure for linkage or pushing an effect that ukraine didn't know aiden was held at the time of the call and forget the fact that they did nothing to get the aid release, no announcement of any type of investigation whatsoever. they forget that, those key facts and they build their case about mckay that had to clarify his testimony with that amazing sentence. mr. goldman, did the democrats publish phone records of the president's attorne...

You couldn't give any excavation, is that right? >> that's right. >> the, you couldn't tell them i was being withheld. >> right. >> if they couldn't put two and two together, you did it for them. because he told them they would have to make that public statement, likely to get that aid release. is that right? >> i presumed that might have to be done in order to get the in release. >> we've had a lot of argumentation here, "well, the ukrainians did know the aide was withheld." but they found out. it was made abundantly clear, if they hadn't put two and two together themselves, that if they want...