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And he sort of dodged that question. but pointed to the fact that he's trying to get to the bottom of -- >> reasonable question, maybe you can answer it, but whoever leaked it didn't leak the fact that material was last disinformation. anybody who put it out was probably trying to hurt trump. now, there's a number of suspects you could say. the eight members of the congress in the senate, leading and ranking members and chairmen of the intelligence communities. eight suspects there. you might go with the democrats perhaps because they don't like trump. you might. you could cite somebody in the...

This, singling out -- >> the salacious material. >> now we've risen in his esteem because of that and wants to thank us and congratulate us for doing our jobs. >> so you don't want the pat on the head. >> no, i don't. tomorrow there could be a report that nbc comes out with that he does not like. >> okay. >> and he will call it fake news regardless of whether it is scurrilous or regardless of whether it is disinformation. he's picking and choosing. >> gabe, you cover the media and i think the new term, it's an easy one to reach for if you want to trash somebody, fake news. there's a difference...

The media is too intense. we've seen, you know, with -- i think that it would be a very different environment today with president clinton than it was when it happened that the onslaught of media and accessibility and endless questions are becoming too distracting for a politician. >> let me stop you there. >> and we have lots of examples. >> let me stop you there, because clinton is a great example. he's answer to the argument. the more salacious material came out about clinton, the more his personal approval ratings began to soar as the american public -- >> no, that's not what made his appr...

We've seen, you know, with -- i think that it would be a very different environment today with president clinton than it was when it happened that the onslaught of media and accessibility and endless questions are becoming too distracting for a politician. >> let me stop you there. >> and we have lots of examples. >> let me stop you there, because clinton is a great example. he's answer to the argument. the more salacious material came out about clinton, the more his personal approval ratings began to soar as the american public -- >> no, that's not what made his approval ratings soar. what ma...

And jesse james and probably now with arnold schwarzenegger. i actually think in politics we've gone the opposite direction where it's too big a distraction. the media is too intense. we've seen, you know, with -- i think that it would be a very different environment today with president clinton than it was when it happened that the onslaught of media and accessibility and endless questions are becoming too distracting for a politician. >> let me stop you there. >> and we have lots of examples. >> let me stop you there, because clinton is a great example. he's answer to the argument. the more ...