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Late teens. He writes that that as well as how he balanced governing with being a dad. We join him in chicago in a high school where he was visiting with a group of young men who were part of my brothers keeper to talk about their lives and the challenges they face. Are you going back to Community Organizing . Well, probably im a little too old and gray haired to be going door to door like i used to be. Plus Secret Service follows me around which is pretty disruptive. I am going back to what inspired me to get into public life. One of the thing that inspires former president barack obama these...

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People want to express themselves with their art. >> we need people to come into the community. so things like that, it's people that's my age that never tried in their life, but you go into more gifted communities, they know how to tie a tie. they know the difference between a fork and a salad fork. >> although i didn't learn that until i got to the white house. >> right. that's where i learned it, when i was on a visit with you. >> remember that? and we ate sandwiches. >> i gave you the tip. you do this and that's the bread and that's the drink. the b and the d. that's how i would remember i...

You go into the more gifted communities they learn how to tie a tie. they know the difference between a soup and salad fork or a soupspoon. >> though i didn't learn that until i went to the white house. >> that's when i learned it, visiting you. >> i gave you the tip you do this, and that's the bread, and that's the drink. the "d" and the "d," that's how i remember it so i wasn't eating someone else's bread and drinking someone else's bread. >> just being able to see things positive. >> that's a great thing. >> hearing each other's stories, seeing each other as we are may not be a simple thing...

Sponsorships and more things within the school such as an afterschool program to keep the kids from off the streets or, like, things that they want to do. like not everybody wants to fight all the time. like people want to express their selves with their art. >> we need people to come into the community. so i'm saying things like -- like it's people that's my age that never tied a tie in their life. but you go into more gifted communities, they learn how to tie a tie. they know the difference of forks are for. food and salad fork, you know, the soup spoon. >> although i didn't learn that until...