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Editor at large for salon.com and author of the new book "what's the matter with white people?" i thought it was white men. okay. >> all of us. >> great to have you with us tonight, joan. how do you consume the comments of candidate tom smith? how does this -- this kind of tone deafness effect the gop ticket? >> i mean, do thaw think we're stupid, ed. do they think we're not listening. it's just crazy. but one problem i have is on the one hand, this language is disgusting and ignorant. on the other hand, the real point, the real reason paul ryan can say it doesn't matter on some level and it's...

What i tried to do, first off, dana, i knew people had been hurt, because they had assumed or wanted to assume or by people who portrayed it this way, that the legitimate referred to rapists. there isn't any legitimate rapist. none, whatsoever. they're horrible criminals. and i have no tolerance for them whatsoever. i have a wife and daughters. i have nothing -- no respect, nothing. there's nothing legitimate about a rapist. but to rather, i was putting that in in the wrong play, making the point that there were people who used false claims, like those that basically created roe versus wade. >...

Making the point that there were people who used false claims, like those that basically created roe versus wade. >> joining me now, erin carmoan, a reporter for salon.com, and ana marie cox with the guardian u.s. ana marie, did todd akin just clarify anything for you? >> i guess he clarified his own ignorance. you know, just when you thought he couldn't say anything worse, i mean, he really just sort of dig into it. this idea that there's some massive, you know, misreporting of rape, that women are claiming rape, just in order to get abortions, i think is, you know, a misunderstanding of wome...

You have 15% in poverty women right now. women and children are the ones hurt most by a bad economy. >> barbara comstock, i have to let that be the last word. thank you for coming on. we do appreciate it. >> thank you. >> i want to bring in erin karmone who has written about women's issues for salon.com. how much is this going to resonate, do you think? there's certainly a lot of commentary out there on social media. >> absolutely. you saw yesterday twitter was blowing up over this, and i think one of the reasons it's really going to resonate is because as you pointed out, this is incredibly c...

Details. >> i am. >> more like a mood setter for a room. we had engelbert humperdinck doing way too early this morning with a v neck, but this -- >> ryan sets the mood. >> for the party. >> for small government. >> all right. >> specific. don't -- don't look too close at it. but i will tell you -- >> don't look at the sheet music. >> tells us more about mitt romney than say a rob mort portman pick which seems safe. ryan was not safe. >> going to embrace the small government -- >> the hard right. >> as his advisors said yesterday. >> kurt andersen stay with us. >> give me the sheet music. >> we...