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Component of that when you talk about immigration and trade particularly where those same voters feel like they've been sold out by the republican establishment that they -- that the republican establishment doesn't share their views fundamentally on immigration and trade. and donald trump, and this is what we're seeing and why i think -- why he's grown in strength after paris, no one can -- the normal kinds of political gravity that operate on actors in this situation, which is shame, which is worrying -- >> worrying about -- >> politeness. the party. >> all those things. >> none of those are...

Of you, the combination of the things he's saying, the kind of ugliness particularly of that rhetoric, and the enthusiastic rapturous attention he's getting, that is a real thing. that's not being created by anyone. you agree, right, michael? >> i do agree. and crowds, while they may not represent votes, they do represent a mood. and they do -- you see it in ben carson. you see it in bernie sanders. you see it on the right and the left, that with respect to the bases of the democrat and republican party there is a mood that has settled in. it is more pronounced obviously for the republicans be...

And we can pretend that it's a function of trump, but there is a graph here from john mccain picking sarah palin to mitt romney never making that pivot to the center after his primary to donald trump. there's something going on in the republican party and it's being missed i think by a large portion of the media. >> michael, do you think -- i guess i asked your opinion on silver's idea, which is basically look, everyone's way out ahead of this people make up their minds late, particularly new hampshire, this is going to go away on its own. what do you think of that? >> i think everything's rig...

In a post entitled "dear media, stop freaking out about donald trump's polls," nate silver argues if past nomination races are any guide the vast moijt of republican voters haven't made up their minds yet. according to silver while trump has consistently clocked around 25% of republicans' support those votes are still up for grabs because most haven't gotten serious about picking a candidate. joining me now michael steele msnbc conflict analyst and former rnc chair and sam seder msnbc contributor and host of "the majority report." and sam, i'll begin with you because my sense is you don't thin...

Establishment that they -- that the republican establishment doesn't share their views fundamentally on immigration and trade. and donald trump, and this is what we're seeing and why i think -- why he's grown in strength after paris, no one can -- the normal kinds of political gravity that operate on actors in this situation, which is shame, which is worrying -- >> worrying about -- >> politeness. the party. >> all those things. >> none of those are operating. so you're just getting that pure id and that's being channeled. and you're going to see when and if gravity reasserts itself. michael s...