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They do see some advantage in a confrontation that leads to a government shutdown that one side will try to blame on the other. not so important if we get to the final outcome. we just don't know what the outcome will be. >> sam, do you think we see a government shutdown, a first ever when the white house, senate and house are controlled by the same party? >> i honestly wouldn't be surprised because i think trump has it within himself to do this. again, he controls all the powers. if he wants a deal, it's there. he had a deal with schumer and pelosi that he blew up over daca. but it is somethi...

They want tax increases and we want tax decreases. they've been all talk and no action. now it's not even talk. >> nicole wallace later said it was staged like an eighth grade play. if the empty chairs were at all ambiguous as a visual, for those who missed the point, there were name placards for both schumer and pelosi both absent. our fanl, peter baker, correspondent for the "new york times," ashley parker, white house reporter for "the washington post," one of the authors of the piece we just quoted and sam styne, all three are msnbc political analysts. peter, i'd like to begin with you. ca...

This is something we knew before the election. >> sam, i am not a mental health professional, i may need one before this is over. i've heard them talk about that they have not treated the president but this is one of the markers of narcissism, needing your world to adhere to your story, all of it has to be together as a package going forward. the problem is on a tay like today with all of this happening, if the north koreans had figured out a way to straighten out the track of a missile like today's, we may be yanked into a very different story. >> yeah. i want to step back for a second and ju...