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We truly understand what has happened here. battle for kyiv is over. and the -yard line requestens have won a -- ukrainians have won a decisive victory against russia's main effort. we can confirm from satellite coverage that the limited counterattacks ukrainians were doing have succeeded. but the russians have made a decision to retrograde and withdraw completely from the kyiv area, and that is ongoing. and chernihiv also there's at least a partial withdrawal going on, and it may be a complete withdrawal as we have seen in kyiv. and look at, this is very significant. russia came in here with ...

So you have to consider that fact. there are real assets in play in this country right now that aren't being used. instead we are waiting for a delegation to arrive in ankara and have meetings and use diplomatic levers. by then turkey will have seized more territory, and it will be negotiating over scorched earth. >> richard, are we looking at a situation where the u.s. government, due to all the technology that we have, that we're probably watching this in real time, there are people -- we're getting footage in in real time, satellite coverage in real time. is it possible we're watching in re...

Millions of dollars to construct. if you're in the combat information ship on one of these destroyers, warships at sea, it's astonishing the network. they're linked into satellite coverage. they can talk to every other navy ship on the face of the earth. so again, this is an unbelievable event, and it signals a level of vulnerability and incompetence in two cases that detracts from our power. the navy is the primary tool of u.s. international military power. we shouldn't forget that. >> i thought it would be useful to have this discussion. there's a lot we don't know, but this was an unbelieva...

Crossings every year. nevertheless, he's absolutely right, these ships have to use the best technology to have to make sure there's no chance of a collision like this at sea. >> we've touched on this showing vulnerability on the part of our navy right now with as vital a role as the navy has vis-a-vis the north korean threat and the safety in the region. this is not a good time, a, to go down two missile advisory, and b, to have a systematic operational pause in the u.s. navy. >> yeah, i agree. i know they are perfectly wear of that. these are hundreds and hundreds of millions of dollars to co...

There are hundreds of vessel crossings every year. nevertheless, he's absolutely right, these ships have to use the best technology to have to make sure there's no chance of a collision like this at sea. >> we've touched on this showing vulnerability on the part of our navy right now with as vital a role as the navy has vis-a-vis the north korean threat and the safety in the region. this is not a good time, a, to go down two missile advisory, and b, to have a systematic operational pause in the u.s. navy. >> yeah, i agree. i know they are perfectly wear of that. these are hundreds and hundreds...