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No, these were just exercises when the rest of the world would know that's probably not true. so he's going to have to get something and either that or he can't save face. >> yeah. >> and that's the thing that i look at that because he is so far down the line, so far in, it's hard for me to believe that he would pull back with nothing and for no reason. >> so if you were advising this administration, what could the u.s. and allies give putin to allow him to save face and not continue to escalate and not invade? >> well, i think, so far, the way the president has handled this and our european l...

With mr putin to try and let him save face and prevent a war? i save face and prevent a war? i certainly agree that this save face and prevent a war? i certainly agree that this could go on for some time, neither war nor peace, the continuing russian pressure. they'll have to withdraw some of the troops because you can't keep that many in the tents in freezing weather for so long. the pressure will go on and russia will do all they can to drive down the ukrainians and their economy has already been quite badly affected by this, investors not wanting to put their money there. there is no quick ...

About, what are you prepared to do if this feels like it's moving towards a bigger escalating war? where is part of you that has to ask if there's a way for putin to save face if he overestimated what he could do and underestimated ukraine in, and the world's reaction. how do you allow status seeking culture? it's about their place in the world. the world of persuasion -- mockery is great. calling the more criminal, all these things, i don't think that's going to persuade anybody. however, finding a way, the off-ramp, the ability, the potential to save face, is one way to avoid further bloodsh...

He's not thinking about the russian people and how they might suffer. he's thinking about a historic mission he thinking he's on to reunite the slavic people. his speech went on for about an hour and eight minutes, long, rambling, about what lenin did to create the ukrainian state, but there's no hint whatsoever in that speech he was looking for an off-ramp or to save face, all these phrases we keep yule are not -- i hope i'm wrong, just like the president sell, but there's no evidence, either in terms of what he's saying or what he's doing on the ground to suggest he's not going in. >> so, lo...

Anymore. everyone is going for the finance. cut this guy at the bank. you are not going to talk to him about being a great guy. he already took half of eastern ukraine, or part of it in 2014. he got away with it. we did nothing. he took crimea. all of a sudden, we are going to talk him into -- >> trying to get the guy to save face. if you are right about the oil, but you are never going to get that until germany, the italians say "we are turning the lights out for a while." the pipeline has open, and it's gushing through ukraine. >> harold: i want the russian people to realize that if he is go...