MSNBC MSNBC Live With Stephanie Ruhle December 25, 2019 14:47:00
They don't kill you. they kill someone you love. because then you live in pain the rest of your life knowing that your actions caused the death of a loved one and now you don't have them. i learned that from him. >> reporter: and the man debra once loved she now feared. that had to be a very, very strange feeling. >> very much, yes. scared for my life. >> reporter: and not just her own life. >> i was afraid he'd kill my mom. i was also afraid he would kill me or my sister or someone. >> reporter: after all, they'd ruined all his plans. in the summer of 2016, debra began staying, in secret, wit...