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roulette: a story of wealth, power and vengeance in today's china." i hope you will read it. i found it incredibly powerful. desmond, you just saw selina, she shielded the identity of the protester she spoke with. but chinese officials are using a lot of methods to find these protesters to track them down. how concerned would you be if you were a protester? >> i think the risk is tremendous. i mean, there are reports that chinese has done this facial recognition even with your mask on. so i think the government is -- the crackdown is already happening. and i think given the record for the past decade, xi jinping's crackdown will be severe and brutal. >> and let me ask you about that. when you say "severe and brutal," what do you think xi will do to the protesters? >> their standard mode of

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