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There was this campaign idea. and now they're trying to reengineer the scandal stuff all the way into what happened that night. they're trying to get it going at both ends of this thing. >> right. and i mean, when i watch susan rice say that, i -- myself was surprised. because it struck me at the time that this started with the movie and the reaction against the movie, but it looked like there was something organized there. which eventually is what happened. but she was briefed to say that, and she said that, and the cia was worried about naming al qaeda and creating all kinds of other problem...

Music choice there. josh green is a senior national correspondent for bloomberg business week. general sake is now vice president of the global strategy group and msnbc analyst michael steel is the chairman of the republican party. josh, you spent a lot of time with herman cain a few months ago. is this a money making adventure. it was sort of the thesis of your campaign. different herman cain now. what did you learn traveling around with the cain campaign? >> strange. different than any other kind of campaign. cain shoots from the hip. he is a fun guy to talk to. he is a fun guy to report on ...

Butt every single night now. and you have to be kidding with this fake a.c.o.r.n. scandal stuff. unbelievable. did you live in this country? >> if by this country you mean is my office right across the street from yours, yes. unless there's an unguarded border down the middle lane of sixth avenue, yes, i live in what you call this country. and, no, though i sometimes kid, i'm not kidding, as mr. o'reilly asks, when mr. o'reilly says they manufactured the outrage over a.c.o.r.n. as that with sherrod. the tape was edited to make it look like an outlandishly dressed pimp. the guy wasn't dressed l...

About this scandal. fox does what fox does. >> which is kick your network's butt every single night now. and you have to be kidding with this fake a.c.o.r.n. scandal stuff. unbelievable. did you live in this country? >> if by this country you mean is my office right across the street from yours, yes. unless there's an unguarded border down the middle lane of sixth avenue, yes, i live in what you call this country. and, no, though i sometimes kid, i'm not kidding, as mr. o'reilly asks, when mr. o'reilly says they manufactured the outrage over a.c.o.r.n. as that with sherrod. the tape was edited...

That's not new. that's not actually even interesting about this scandal. fox does what fox does. >> which is kick your network's butt every single night. and you have to be kidding with this fake acorn scandal stuff. unbelievable. do you live in this country? one of the few honest brokers on the cable news arm is chris matthews, democrat who says what he believes. >> here's bill o'reilly last night on fox. knowing bill is going to correct this tonight, i hope he does, i think he will. here he is operating in the same rash judgment that the white house operated in. >> not so much rash. but i di...